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	<title>Comments on: Why Doesn&#8217;t This Trigger Work &#8211; No Developer Tools Allowed in the Database</title>
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		<title>By: Charles Hooper</title>
		<link>http://hoopercharles.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/why-doesnt-this-trigger-work-no-developer-tools-allowed-in-the-database/#comment-3890</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Hooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Pete,

That is interesting that you were sent an email to subscribe to this blog article.  I see that you were commenting on this blog article:
http://juliandontcheff.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/the-role-of-the-dba-in-the-private-database-cloud/#comments

You mentioned something in your comment in the above link about security in cloud-based networking where all databases in the world are shared on one server.  I wonder if someone is trying to send a message to you that you have a point.  :-)

I do find that it is interesting that you were sent a link to sign up for this article.  I checked the Wordpress control panel and did not see an option where sending those notices was a configurable option.  Was the above linked comment your first comment on Wordpress in the past year?  I don&#039;t recall for certain, but I do not think that it was possible to subscribe to blog articles when I set up this blog in November 2009 - maybe Wordpress is sending out the notices retroactively when a new comment is added to a different Wordpress blog?

It would be fantastic if you included a link to your presentation in a comment in this article when you make those slides available in December.  I will definitely send an email to you requesting the slides.  Thank you for the offer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pete,</p>
<p>That is interesting that you were sent an email to subscribe to this blog article.  I see that you were commenting on this blog article:<br />
<a href="http://juliandontcheff.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/the-role-of-the-dba-in-the-private-database-cloud/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://juliandontcheff.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/the-role-of-the-dba-in-the-private-database-cloud/#comments</a></p>
<p>You mentioned something in your comment in the above link about security in cloud-based networking where all databases in the world are shared on one server.  I wonder if someone is trying to send a message to you that you have a point.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do find that it is interesting that you were sent a link to sign up for this article.  I checked the WordPress control panel and did not see an option where sending those notices was a configurable option.  Was the above linked comment your first comment on WordPress in the past year?  I don&#8217;t recall for certain, but I do not think that it was possible to subscribe to blog articles when I set up this blog in November 2009 &#8211; maybe WordPress is sending out the notices retroactively when a new comment is added to a different WordPress blog?</p>
<p>It would be fantastic if you included a link to your presentation in a comment in this article when you make those slides available in December.  I will definitely send an email to you requesting the slides.  Thank you for the offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Finnigan</title>
		<link>http://hoopercharles.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/why-doesnt-this-trigger-work-no-developer-tools-allowed-in-the-database/#comment-3889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete Finnigan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Charles,

I just posted to Julian Dontchefs blog and for some reason wordpress sent me also an email to sign up for this post? no idea why but anyway i am glad it did as I have written a presentation on accountability in the database and of spoofing values. I presented it at a UKOUG a while ago and will present it at the confernce in december and after that i will post the slides to my site. If you want a copy for info, drop me an email and i will send you a pdf.

cheers

Pete]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charles,</p>
<p>I just posted to Julian Dontchefs blog and for some reason wordpress sent me also an email to sign up for this post? no idea why but anyway i am glad it did as I have written a presentation on accountability in the database and of spoofing values. I presented it at a UKOUG a while ago and will present it at the confernce in december and after that i will post the slides to my site. If you want a copy for info, drop me an email and i will send you a pdf.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Finnigan</title>
		<link>http://hoopercharles.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/why-doesnt-this-trigger-work-no-developer-tools-allowed-in-the-database/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete Finnigan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Charles, 

Yes i wanted to really focus on the bigger picture as its something I have discussed many times over the years. I think the bottom line is that this idea (the idea of blocking any application) is hard to acheive.. its just a sad fact of using Oracle. Oracle provide API&#039;s that essentially allow you spoof values, which is sad really

Thanks for your comment Charles and also about my speed, I write very fast..:-) i guess

cheers

Pete]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Charles, </p>
<p>Yes i wanted to really focus on the bigger picture as its something I have discussed many times over the years. I think the bottom line is that this idea (the idea of blocking any application) is hard to acheive.. its just a sad fact of using Oracle. Oracle provide API&#8217;s that essentially allow you spoof values, which is sad really</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment Charles and also about my speed, I write very fast..:-) i guess</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Hooper</title>
		<link>http://hoopercharles.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/why-doesnt-this-trigger-work-no-developer-tools-allowed-in-the-database/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Hooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Pete,

Thanks for stopping by and adding value to my blog article.

The blog article that you authored in reponse to my blog article essentially addresses the bigger picture of this blog article.  This blog article is not so much about a trigger that singled out Excel as a developer tool, but completely failed to prevent Excel from connecting to the database - and how we fix the trigger to block Excel.  Additionally, this blog article is not primarily intended to scold people for perpetuating inaccurate information on the Internet without taking a moment to stop, think, and understand.  The bigger picture is how would someone limit what programs/users may or may not access a database.

I am impressed with the speed with which you put together your blog article - this must be a frequent request from your customers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Pete,</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by and adding value to my blog article.</p>
<p>The blog article that you authored in reponse to my blog article essentially addresses the bigger picture of this blog article.  This blog article is not so much about a trigger that singled out Excel as a developer tool, but completely failed to prevent Excel from connecting to the database &#8211; and how we fix the trigger to block Excel.  Additionally, this blog article is not primarily intended to scold people for perpetuating inaccurate information on the Internet without taking a moment to stop, think, and understand.  The bigger picture is how would someone limit what programs/users may or may not access a database.</p>
<p>I am impressed with the speed with which you put together your blog article &#8211; this must be a frequent request from your customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Finnigan</title>
		<link>http://hoopercharles.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/why-doesnt-this-trigger-work-no-developer-tools-allowed-in-the-database/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete Finnigan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Charles,

I liked your post and it inspired me to write a little about the problems of blocking applications - http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001313.htm

cheers

Pete]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charles,</p>
<p>I liked your post and it inspired me to write a little about the problems of blocking applications &#8211; <a href="http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001313.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001313.htm</a></p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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